i think that edward scissorhands out to be sent a videotape or cd to every republican and democrat and the president so they can learn what cutting is all about. okay? let me get this straight. if we're going to spend one of these and we're going to try to project how many we spend, if we do this and we cut it up, okay, that's a real spending cut. that's what we need to do. we need to take ben franklin and we're talking trillions and there's a lot of bens and we need to cut them. hear how that sounds? here's the problem that i see. we look at issues and then we talk about savings and then we go to a camera and we being all politicians and talk about the ten-year savings. we spend about 80 billion of these, $80 billion, on two wars. for the most part other than how many troops we're going to keep in afghanistan, they're over. so if you are spending $80 billion a year on two wars and they end, you're not spending 80 billion a year so$80 billion a . should you say you're cutting the deficit $800 billion? the real issue is this. if we're going to get serious about negotiating, okay? we can